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   MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk to All   
   MI5 Persecution: bugging and counter-sur   
   28 Nov 06 14:32:22   
   
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   PO: >Did you ever look for the bugs in your house ? If not, why not ? I mean if   
   PO: >I thought that was happening to me, I'd search the place from top to   
   bottom,   
   PO: >I mean I live there I would know if anything was out of place. If I was   
   PO: >really suspicious, I would call in one of those bug detection teams which   
   PO: >have those machines that pick up the transmitted radio waves. This   
   PO: >reminds me of BUGS, that new programme on BBC1 on   
      
   That's exactly what we did. We went to a competent, professional detective   
   agency in London, paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. They used   
   scanner devices which go to over 1 GHz and would pick up any nearby   
   transmitter in that range, they also checked the phones and found   
   nothing... but if the tap was at the exchange, then they wouldn't find   
   anything, would they?   
      
   CS: >Doesn't this suggest to you that there are, in fact, no bugs to be found?   
      
   You can assume that they've done this sort of thing to other people in more   
   "serious" cases, where they would know the targets would suspect the   
   presence of electronic surveillance. So they will have developed techniques   
   and devices which are not readily detectable either by visual inspection or   
   by electronic means. What those techniques might be, I couldn't guess.   
      
   In this case, the existence of bugging devices was clear from the   
   beginning, and they "rubbed it in" with what was said by the boy on the   
   coach. It was almost as if they wanted counter-surveillance people to be   
   called in, who they knew would fail to detect the bugging devices, causing   
   loss of credibility to the other things I would have to say relating to the   
   harassment.   
      
   I did all the things someone in my situation would do to try to find the   
   bugs. In addition to calling in professional help using electronic   
   counter-surveillance, I made a close visual inspection of electrical   
   equipment, plus any points where audio or video surveillance devices might   
   have been concealed. Of course, I found nothing. Normal surveillance   
   "mini-cameras" are quite noticeable and require visible supporting   
   circuitry. It seems to me the best place to put a small video surveillance   
   device would be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a TV   
   or video. It would be necessary to physically break in to a property to fit   
   such a device.   
      
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