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|    MI5 Persecution: bugging and counter-sur    |
|    28 Nov 06 14:32:22    |
      XPost: rec.photo.digital, free.it.cracks, alt.pl.nauka.angielskiego       XPost: de.soc.recht.wohnen, tw.bbs.alumni.sungshan, tw.bbs.campus.fju       XPost: alt.sci.physics.new-theories, alt.music.zevon, mailing.unix.bugtraq              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-       -= MI5: bugging and counter-surveillance -=       -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-              PO: >Did you ever look for the bugs in your house ? If not, why not ? I mean if       PO: >I thought that was happening to me, I'd search the place from top to       bottom,       PO: >I mean I live there I would know if anything was out of place. If I was       PO: >really suspicious, I would call in one of those bug detection teams which       PO: >have those machines that pick up the transmitted radio waves. This       PO: >reminds me of BUGS, that new programme on BBC1 on              That's exactly what we did. We went to a competent, professional detective       agency in London, paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. They used       scanner devices which go to over 1 GHz and would pick up any nearby       transmitter in that range, they also checked the phones and found       nothing... but if the tap was at the exchange, then they wouldn't find       anything, would they?              CS: >Doesn't this suggest to you that there are, in fact, no bugs to be found?              You can assume that they've done this sort of thing to other people in more       "serious" cases, where they would know the targets would suspect the       presence of electronic surveillance. So they will have developed techniques       and devices which are not readily detectable either by visual inspection or       by electronic means. What those techniques might be, I couldn't guess.              In this case, the existence of bugging devices was clear from the       beginning, and they "rubbed it in" with what was said by the boy on the       coach. It was almost as if they wanted counter-surveillance people to be       called in, who they knew would fail to detect the bugging devices, causing       loss of credibility to the other things I would have to say relating to the       harassment.              I did all the things someone in my situation would do to try to find the       bugs. In addition to calling in professional help using electronic       counter-surveillance, I made a close visual inspection of electrical       equipment, plus any points where audio or video surveillance devices might       have been concealed. Of course, I found nothing. Normal surveillance       "mini-cameras" are quite noticeable and require visible supporting       circuitry. It seems to me the best place to put a small video surveillance       device would be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a TV       or video. It would be necessary to physically break in to a property to fit       such a device.              338                     --       Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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