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   From: sylvia@not.at.this.address   
      
   Robert Morpheal wrote:   
      
   > No. No. No. Arrrgh..... No.   
   >   
   > In mythematics (mathematics to some who still believe that that language   
   > describes all and everything completely accurately) infinity is simply   
   > an incalculable. There are many reasons why you cannot calculate   
   > something, but there you have it it is infinite.   
      
   There is a theorem in mathametics (Goedel's incompleteness theorem) that   
   says that within any finite set of axioms, there are true statements   
   that cannot be proved, and false statements that cannot be disproved.   
   Thus anyone who believed what you said was believed could not have been   
   properly studying their mathematics.   
      
   >   
   > That isn't absolute infinity. Absolute infinity is really really   
   > infinite and not simply mythematical.   
      
   Who was talking about absolute infinity?   
      
   Anyway, you can't talk about any infinity if you're not doing maths, as   
   it's an invention of maths anyway.   
      
   >   
   > As for time, you would have to be able to handle coordinates plotted in   
   > five irreducable dimensions to get even a start at it.  Try to draw that   
   > on a piece of paper the way you would 3 or attempt to draw 4. Now make   
   > it 5 so that they all work together. Good luck. You have to be able to   
   > plot your course using that.... time traveller.   
      
   What makes you think that just because you've plotted a course in five   
   dimensions that travel along that course would be travel in time?   
      
   This whole talk about travel in dimensions comes from people who   
   mistakenly believe that mathematical physics is saying something about   
   what's really out there. It doesn't do that. All it is is a way of   
   predicting the results of experiments. Nothing more.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
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