XPost: alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, alt.cyberpunk, alt.f   
   n.karl-malden.nose   
   XPost: alt.flame, alt.religion.kibology, alt.slack   
   XPost: alt.society.neutopia, alt.usenet.kooks, alt.webtrance   
   From: nospamschwann@webtrance.co.!za   
      
   "If parts of a hive mind can't know about their own condition, they can   
   hardly cause dismay to ruggedly handsome space cadets by making speeches   
   about the joys of collectivism, can they now?" --  Ari    
      
   a fully   
      
      
   schwann:: Ari - cut - (that stuff above is a good take), if I only knew   
   what you mean really means that I can see that you're different but   
   can't read your thoughts - yet. welcome to hivemind, richer for your   
   prescience..   
      
   schwann cyber shaman   
      
      
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
   Bill Cleere  did this:   
      
    [Ms Neutopia and the term "hivemind"]   
      
   > I didn't say she made up the term, I said she introduced it to   
   > Usenet. I was there at the time.   
      
   She didn't introduce the term to Usenet, as a cursory glance in the   
   Groups Google archive reveals.   
      
   > The term "HiveMind", of whosever coinage or usage, can only mean a   
   > group of people who cannot think for themselves *and by definition   
   > don't know it*. In any other construction the term is pointless.   
      
   I don't agree. The term's definition only prevents a hive mind from   
   being aware of what it is if you include that requirement in the   
   definition. More generally, the requirements are strong conformity and   
   groupthink (with telepathic communication and an "overmind" being   
   optional). This doesn't make the term pointless, far from it.   
      
   If there's one thing I know about skiffy based on watching it on TV,   
   it's that any self-respecting hive mind likes to argue, using the   
   mouth of one of its more photogenic parts, that its conformist ways   
   are superior to the jut-jawed hero's individualist mindset. If parts   
   of a hive mind can't know about their own condition, they can hardly   
   cause dismay to ruggedly handsome space cadets by making speeches   
   about the joys of collectivism, can they now?   
      
   --   
    Ari    
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)