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   From: purestdeformity@hotmail.com   
      
   On 28/09/10 18:30, Robert Scott Martin wrote:   
   >> oblate spheroid   
   >   
   > In article,   
   > Absorbed  wrote:   
   >> On 28/09/10 00:48, Robert Scott Martin wrote:   
   >   
   >> I still have no idea why you don't communicate clearly. Or maybe I'm   
   >> just dumb. Is that it?   
   >   
   > Who knows.   
      
   You have no opinion on the matter, or you're just unwilling to share it?   
      
   > Ambiguities abound in any environment made of wrought language. Like   
   > usenet or the site of much actual "magick."   
      
   Sure, but some people are better at communicating their point than   
   others, and some are more intent on communicating clearly.   
      
   In our last discussion, I asked you to define your terms so that I could   
   understand what you were talking about, but you either weren't capable   
   or intentionally didn't. What do you suppose one should make of that?   
      
   > "The affection in the dream does not belong to the latent content, to the   
   > thoughts behind the dream; it stands in opposition to this content; it is   
   > calculated to conceal the knowledge conveyed by the interpretation.   
   > Probably this is precisely its function. I remember with what reluctance I   
   > undertook the interpretation, how long I tried to postpone it, and how I   
   > declared the dream to be sheer nonsense. I know from my psychoanalytic   
   > practice how such a condemnation is to be interpreted. It has no   
   > informative value, but merely expresses an affect. If my little daughter   
   > does not like an apple which is offered her, she asserts that the apple is   
   > bitter, without even tasting it. If my patients behave thus, I know that   
   > we are dealing with an idea which they are trying to repress. The same   
   > thing applies to my dream. I do not want to interpret it because there is   
   > something in the interpretation to which I object. After the   
   > interpretation of the dream is completed, I discover what it was to which   
   > I objected."   
      
   Dreams are vague by their nature. If you are capable and intended it,   
   your words could be communicate your message precisely and clearly.   
      
   Given that debates about magick are prone to confusion anyway, vague   
   communication will just make the debate pointless. Neither side   
   understand what the other is discussing -- they can only guess.   
      
   > Or with less schillering about: Das Beste, was [du] wissen kannst, darfst   
   > [du] den Buben doch nicht sagen.   
      
   Another joke, perhaps?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)