XPost: alt.non.racism, rec.arts.tv, soc.culture.african.american
From: no_offline_contact@example.com
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 21:53:16 +0000
BTR1701 wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
> wrote:
>
> > An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every
> > form of music in existence-- with the exception of classical
> > music-- from black people.
I'm surprised they didn't claim that Bach, Beethoven, Mozart and the
rest were actually partially black or married to very creative black
women or whatever. Then again, I remember that 30 years ago, the gays
claiming that Beethoven was gay because he had written some love letters
to someone identified only as "immortal beloved"; they insisted that
this person was surely male making both of them gay. (Wikipedia,
however, lists 4 possible identities for "immortal beloved", all of
them female.)
>
> Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they
> met black people. Riiigghht.
>
Ditto for Asians. The Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Indians, etc. had no
music until blacks visited and showed them how to do music.
> This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are
> claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were
> really done by black people.
>
Just like the gays were doing 30 years back.
> The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.
>
30 years ago, there were claims that Shakespeare was actually gay.
> Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black
> guy.
>
> All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.
>
> Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.
>
> Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.
>
The proof for any of these claims is, predictably, seriously sketchy to
outright non-existent. Can you say "wishful thinking"?
> > THE DAILY SHOW correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic,
> > responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce’s upcoming country
> > album-- after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music-- was a
> > step outside her proscribed lane.
> >
> > The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about
> > Beyonce's
> >
> > foray into country were just proving that people on the Right
> > actually were not in favor of "cultural appropriation".
>
> No, it's called applying your own stupid rules against you and
> watching the resulting leaps of illogic y'all engage in to try to
> justify the hypocrisy.
>
> White people can't braid their hair because that's black culture.
> (Ignoring the fact that the Norse people braided their hair long
> before they ever encountered blacks.)
>
>
>
> But that's "different"(TM)!
>
> > "If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn't
> > have created music," Sloan said.
>
> Wait... I thought you said whites *didn't* create any kind of music.
> Now you're saying they did?
>
> > Because every form of music in America was stolen from black people:
> > rock'n'roll, jazz, blues,
> > country, pop music.
>
> Film music? Did blacks invent that, too?
>
> Probably, because I've been told they really invented both the camera
> and film itself, so of course film music was theirs, too. Natch.
>
The (still) camera was invented by a French man named Nicephore Niepce
who looks decidedly white in this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nic%C3%A9phore_Ni%C3%A9pce
The movie camera was invented by Thomas Edison, who is distinctly white
in every picture I've ever seen.
> How about K-Pop? Did blacks secretly invent Korean music also?
>
> And Latin music? Did stealth blacks travel to South America and
> invent that for them, too?
>
They didn't need to travel to Latin America by stealth; they were
already there as slaves.
> > So if you have a problem with cultural appropriation-- y'all created
> > classical
> > music, y’all could have stuck with that …”
>
> When did white people ever have a problem with cultural
> appropriation? That entire concept was invented by 'progressive'
> leftist minorities to give them somewhere else to find raaaaciiism
> bitch about it.
>
> > "Roll the piano into this concert," Sloan continued in mocking
> > tones, claiming that white people-- and conservatives-- only had an
> > issue with cultural appropriation when the thing being appropriated
> > was something they liked or wanted to be associated with.
> >
> > "As dumb as this is, let's just say she's right," one person
> > responded via X.
> >
> > "Fine. We'll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up
> > indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled
> > transportation."
>
> Not to mention basketball. A game invented by white people for white
> people.
>
Basketball was invented by a white Canadian living in the US,
James Naismith, but I've never seen any claim that he intended it to
only be played by white people. He was white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Naismith
> The people who scream about 'cultural appropriation' really hate it
> when you throw that one in their face. They have no answer for it and
> they realize that if they're suggesting white people stop using black
> culture, then there's no way they can logically justify blacks
> playing basketball. The most common dodge is that they'll say it's
> okay when they appropriate white culture because reparations.
>
> > As for the roots of American country music? According to John
> > McEuen of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it came from everywhere:
> > "Country music wasn't called that yet, but it was music of the
> > country. It was a combination of the
> >
> > Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into the
> > world; the Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in Texas; the
> > Germans bringing over the 'oom-pah' of polka music, all
> > converging."
>
> Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also
> invented the German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros
> and they invented the Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything,
> dontcha know! (And even if they didn't, we have to pretend they did
> or we're raaaaciiist because slavery.)
>
>
--
Rhino
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